As in forward controls for Ed's bike, which by the way is turning out quite handsome. These suckers were copied off Gil's own forward controls. Quite a lesson learned this night. Let's just say it borders on the stupidly simple things. Off to my machinist tomorrow. I also did a test weld on the sample strip of neck and the notched downtube. I'm aiming for penetration here, not pretty, which I believe counts as a nice weld.